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| [ TOPIC: DIVORCE ] |
| by [simply me] |
Till death do us part ...
...to have and to hold from this day forward for better or for worse, for richer for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish as long as we both shall live...
ikaw ba ay ayon na ito ay susundin kahit na ang iyong ikamamatay ay ang pambubogbog ng iyong asawa?
ikaw ba ay ayon na ito ay susundin kahit na ang sakit na kanyang dinadala ay dahil sa kanyang pam-babae?
ikaw ba ay ayon na ito ay susundin kahit na ang inyong paghihirap ay dahil sa kanyang paniniwala na di nya kailangan mag hanapbuhay para sa inyong pamilya?
hanggang kailan, hanggang saan ang sinumpaan sa simbahan?
DIBORSYO... kailan nagiging sagot sa sumpang binitiwan?
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| by the rules... |
| by [simply me] |
i always lived by the rules. (oh well, i think so...) kaya naman bago pa kame mag pakasal ng aking asawa, nag set na ko ng rules. :p
1. di ako pwede bugbugin. 2. di pwede ang extra marital affairs.
pag yan e di sinunod, good bye na. wala ng paliwanagan pa. reason ko para dyan ay.... 1. di ako napagbuhatan ng kamay ng mga magulang ko kaya walang karapatan ang iba na pagbuhatan ako ng kamay. in the first place ako ay hindi isang punching bag! 2. kung lalaki anak ko ayaw ko mambabae o mambugbog sya ng asawa. kung babae naman, ayaw ko isipin nya na ok lang mabugbog o nambabae ang asawa.
ok lang saken na hindi i-divorce (gives us the right to marry again), dahil wala na ko balak mag asawa uli. alang alang na ren sa mga anak ko. at kung nanbubugbog/nambabae asawa ko, dapat lang na di na sya makapag asawa ulit. pero, talagang ipaglalaban ko ang legal separation. never ako makikisama uli sa asawa ko kung ako e na jombag na or sya e nakalabit na ng iba. |
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| The Buck Stops Here |
| by [miuccia tarquin] |
My loyalty to my husband stops as soon as he:
a) hurt me physically, with intent b) gives me a sexual disease which he got outside our marriage c) falls in love with someone else d) starts doing drugs e) becomes a womanizer (&/or starts having another family)
Divorce will always be an option to me because it is the easiest way out of a marriage called DISASTER. I am not willing to stay in a union which makes everybody unhappy. I love my kids so much & I owe it to them to be honest on the state of their parents' union.
I'd much rather raise them alone (or share the raising of the kids with my husband separately) than let them grow up thinking its acceptable for them to behave in any of the following examples I gave. To stay in the marriage is to tolerate it. & I am not the person to do that.
Of course, it is a given that we will try counseling, therapy, temporary separation, etc first before we take the big D. |
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| Marriage is Hard Work |
| by [jen] |
I admire people who have been married a long time and still manage to hold hands or give each other a peck on the cheek just because.
But sometimes, life is not so easy and not everyone is blessed with holding hands and pecking on the cheek.
Sometimes, each day you wake up, you are beaten up by your husband not even physically but emotionally. Sometimes, it's just hard to wake up each day trying to come up with ways to avoid the abuse that you know will come your way.
Left and right people who have the money are actually getting annulments even for the smallest things. Celebrities are annuling their marriage simply because they have the money to do so. I know annulment is different because they can't get married in the church (for catholics anyway), but isn't it the same as divorce? Haven't we been tolerating people who have resorted to annulment and put aside the sanctity of marriage just because they want to get out of it?
Have they got good reason to be apart from each other? How do we know if they even worked hard to fully understand each other and not resort to annulment or divorce?
I am neither for divorce nor against it. I just feel that people should have the freedom to choose which path to take AS LONG AS all possible routes have been checked before they resort to dissolving their marriage.
Marriage is a sacrament and we should honor it. But I think God provides a loophole for those who are suffering and since God is good, he does not want people to be in an abusive |
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| E bakit pa nagpakasal... |
| by [the voodoo doll] |
sa totoo lang nahirapan akong sagutin itong part na to... i may not had the chance to do what i want to say (suggest) pero ito e napag-isip isip ko din noon nung mabanggit sa kin ng ex-officemate ko...
According to her... halos sa parehong side ng mom and dad nya, d nag wowork ang first marriage... so she's somehow hesistant getting married and she's in favor of living-in with her partner.
Tama nga naman... living-in with your partner is like marriage without contract nga lang... but... in some ways... makakatulong ito... diba sabi nga nila.. d mo malamaman ang buong pagkatao ng isang tao kung d mo ito makakasama ng matagalan... iba yung bf-gf lang... d kayo natutulog sa iisang bubong... naghihiwalay pa din kayo at the end of the day... thus, give each of you your own space. This way... kung d mag work ang relationship... pwedeng maghiwalay... wala ng madami pang proseso... PERO... ibang usapan na syempre kung may anak na kayo...
Kung may anak ako.. gusto ko yung sa ikakabuti nya lagi... sa ngayon... hindi ko alam kung solusyon ba ang deborsyo... pero kung ang mga anak ko ang iisipin... kung nakikita naman kayo lagi ng mga anak nyo na nag-aaway o d nagkikibuan... it may have more impact to them kesa impact ng magkahiwalay na lang ng tuluyan ang mga magulang nila...
Nope... d kami nag live-in ng aking esposo... pero sa palagay ko tried and tested na ang pasensya naming dalawa kasi sa pag-aaway naman nag-umpisa ang aming magandang samahan ngayon... (*ang mushy naman*) |
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| Don't Block The Driveway |
| by [MrsPartyGirl] |
As a Catholic, I knew that divorce was something you could go to hell for and that married couples should stay married until the day they die because God said so. I took that as canon. I think having parents who stuck with each other through thick and thin, further reinforced my belief. Also, Philippine law categorically prohibits divorce, so it's not even a legal option. It's safe to say, therefore, that I took the concept of divorce for granted and never really tried to grasp what divorce meant, why it was important, and when it would be considered as an imperative action, because I accepted being 'together forever' as the only way it was supposed to be.
And then I became a Feminist.
I learned that, to look at divorce narrowly as a means to end a "troubled" relationship is very simplistic. Also, to say that all the effects of divorce are evil, is putting it too extremely. Divorce serves a purpose, I think, and I will stand by my support of it, despite popular opinion.
Just to clarify, you might ask, why is 'annulment' accepted in Pinas when 'divorce' is not? Aren't they the same? Nope, they're not. An annulment is the termination of a marriage that was invalidly entered into in the first place. (For Filipinos, the bases for determining if a marriage is valid or not are spelled out in the Family Code of the Philippines). On the other hand, a divorce is the termination of a marriage that was validly contracted. Our legal system allows annulment for legal reasons, but does not allow divorce for emotional reasons.
On the one hand, I agree with the law's intention to safeguard the family. If abused and mismanaged, a divorce could cause great psychological damage to the members of the family (particularly, the children). However, my concern is: what if the marriage has deteriorated to the point that just staying in the marriage could cause further psychological, emotional, and physical damage to the family members? Or even death? What then would be the way out?
The concept of divorce was basically created as a solution to ease these forms of domestic disturbances. Men and women should have the right to seek any means necessary to live without fear, and to protect themselves from emotional and physical harm, as well as be legally entitled to financial compensation from the offending spouse.
So I agree to reject the absolute premise that all divorce inevitably damages children, in the same way that all intact families are sane and healthy. Truth is, a good divorce is better for children than a bad marriage. If so, can't this be considered pro-family, too, in any case?
As you can see, I support divorce only on issues regarding domestic violence, and as a last resort. I support counselling, rehabilitation, and second chances. I do not, however, support abuse, irresponsibility, and helplessness, like I do not support divorce as a tool to aid the whims of marrying couples who would use it as a license to marry and divorce as often as they want. (This, to me, shows gross immaturity, which justifies why they do not deserve to be married anyway.)
My husband would oppose me on this, of course. He believes that divorce should be eradicated from the face of the earth to give the couples a chance to work out their differences in a mature and pro-active manner. After all, they will be together for the rest of their lives, right? Besides, he says, it's the Catholic thing to do. So here we are, disagreeing like children (like we oftentimes do), but we try to work out our disagreements like adults (as best we can). I think his point is valid and he may be right, too. But I also say, not everyone is as lucky as we are to have mature and loving partners (and whom we have no wish to divorce whatsoever). If all couples resolve their differences this way, then maybe I'd relent.
Lastly, my great respect and admiration goes out to all the couples who stuck to each other through thick and thin despite the unblocked driveway. This means they chose to stay together on their own free will, and not because they couldn't leave. Love and respect should reign in a marriage, as it should always be. |
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| hiwalay kung hiwalay! |
| by [marie] |
... ang puti sa de-kolor pag naglalaba. kasi mahahawa ang mga puti.. hihihi
i do believe that deciding to get married is no joke. a lot of things, whether physical, social, emotional, pschological, change after saying 'I do'. so people need to be prepared to enter marriage, so as not to treat it lightly and later discard so easily.
as the bible says that the husband should love his wife as Christ loves the church. do you think Christ would beat up his beloved? or even inflict harm to the person God has gifted them to be their lifelong partner? ending the marriage will not solve the problem, cause if the person gets married to another person, the same cycle will continue. we have to deal with the root cause of why the marriage was not successful in the first place, and try to improve on that.
i never really did like the term 'irreconcileable differences'.... all people are different. but to say that you can not meet halfway despite your differences, means that you do not respect the uniqueness of your partner and do not like to find ways in order to be a complement to your partner but rather you are competing with your partner.
the solution here would be to keep people, who are halfhearted about getting married, from getting married. a guy who beats up his wife, is not psychologically mature or ready for marriage. a wife who files for divorce because his husband snores may not be mature enough to get married in the first place... my two cents... |
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sa paniniwala ko kasi... yang mga words na yan, ideally binibitiwan lang ng mga taong SANE and HEALTHY (both in body, mind and spirit)
anyway... naiintindihan ko ang rewards ng diborsyo... pero para sakin ha, hindi nya pa naa-outweigh yung resulting damage to families and children's psyche
siguro nga, hindi yung diborsyo yung me kasalanan... siguro lang, karamihan eh kulang sa follow up :)